неплохо поет. почти без акцента

Это точно, Макара загнали уже туда, где он сам телят не пас...
Как видно, всё идёт к созданию бъединённого сайта любителей www.ВСК-МВ.ru

Да уж,

Вот с этого надо было и начинать. А что же было плохого на этом концерте? Раз Вы уж любите выискивать негативное.

Я понимаю, что тебе очень нужен повод для ругани, но я всё сказала, что хотела...
А у тя, кстати, еще неотвеченные посты в "Фото-творчестве"

Я не давал повода ругаться, почему ругаться? Просто хотелось услышать впечатления чуть подробнее.
Не хочешь, да нет проблем оставь для внуков рассказы.

Ты была там и не выложила ни фоток, ни впечатлений? Прям Диана де Бельфлёр какая-то

Фодки какие? Каво ты тама не видал? Сербела?
И шо за Блядьфлёр такая?

http://lib.ru/DEVEGA/vega2.txt

Ниасилила
Приеду када в следующий раз в Питер, ты мне за кружкой вотки расскажешь, хде там хундехрабен?

Только если расскажешь про концерт Машины.

Не просто расскажет, а напишет отчет/доклад/статью, нормально распишет так.

Сафсем от рук отбились, была на концерте - отчет с фотами в студию

Те Илюха расскажет; я полконцерта курила...
а другую полоину - пила


Жорик! Я чё та соскучилась так по те!

Да твоя цель понятна и вся цепочка уже ясна, и даже знаю кто тебе переслал в тот же день только вышедшей удиозаписи с нового альбома. Это уже происходит не первый раз. Предыдущий альбом точно так же был распространён в инете с помошью тебя. Да ты же всем желающим розослал. Чуть позже, тем кому ты розослал просто закрывали глаза на твои выступления не в кассу. Им просто неудобно было поперёк слово сказать. И ты сучара убери свою подпись на иврите про Макара, мне сегодня специально перевели, я даже не подозревал какой же ты (нехороший человек)
Редиска-одним словом. Я приеду к тебе через третью страну, чтоб ты не ожидал, чтоб спросить у тебя зачем ты это всё делаешь?

Предупреждение №1

Руки прочь от Сербела ! Он наше все !

тайм машин в сд-качестве
http://torrents.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?t=172288

чёт эта ссылка ведёт не на файл.

да.
тем не менее, скачать очень просто и быстро.
там всё написано.

Я извиняюсь что не в кассу последущее сообщение. Стад, вот ты считаешь это нормально чтоб написать на иврите подпись под каждым своим сообщением и обзывательством определённого человека?

Там всего-то написано типа: Макаревич - loser! Я думаю, что это ему самому (Макаревичу) даже бы понравилось. Его можно сказать сравнили с Ленноном. Помнишь: I'm a loser!

Ну уж не loser, а лузер. Дело всё в том что мы по разному реагируем. Если ты пытаешься смягчить, то я не пытаюсь этого делать. Я считаю неправильным написать фразу на другом языке и этим кичится, когда половина не понимают этот язык. Это как удар исподтишка в солнечное сплетение.
Могу представить если Доныч что нибудь на Украинском напишет ну и так далее по цепочке.

От, типа по-украински тут не все поймут. Была бы проблема.

тебе знакомые не полностью перевели, поленились для тебя стараться, видимо
мне тут друг перевел так:
Макарон неудачник, хочешь поговорить об этом???

так вот из-за чего весь скандальчик... мде

причём, меньшая

А кто такой макарон?

Думаешь подразумевался maxaon ?

если это так ... то я ноту и ли эту направляю.. всему прогрессивному человечеству.... а если не так то всё одно направлю.. тока позже.. кому пока не решил

Макаревич, т.е.

Нет не хчу, про Макара, я про него знаю больше чем он сам знает о себе. (шутка)
Хочу в этой теме о студии Abbey Road, о Лондоне наконец, ну или о новом альбоме, раз уж такую тему завели. А зачем мне Макар? Мне с ним детей не крестить. Удачник он или неудачник мне безразлично, у меня своих проблем хватает. Я его иногда пытался защитить лишь из-за того что некоторые просто по хамски ведут по отношению к нему или другому музыканту. И самое печальное что их бред никто не читает из музыкантов, а они продолжают унижать людей зная что им не ответят и думают что обсирая других возвеличиваются как баобабы, а на самом деле окружающим просто противно это читать.

Вас интересует Лондон? Я тоже обожаю этот город. Вот немного истории для вас,если вы спрашивали..
London


Though there were prehistoric settlements throughout the vast area that we now call London, no evidence has yet been found for any such community at the northern end of London Bridge where the present city grew up. The origins of London lie in Roman times.

When the Romans invaded Britain in AD43, they moved north from the Kentish Coast and traversed the Thames in the London region, clashing with the local tribesmen just to the north. It has been suggested that the soldiers crossed the river at Lambeth, but it was further downstream that they built a permanent wooden bridge, just east of the present London Bridge, in more settled times some seven years later. As a focal point of the Roman road system, it was the bridge which attracted settlers and led to London's inevitable growth. Though the regularity of London's original street grid may indicate that the initial inhabitants were the military, trade and commerce soon followed. The London Thames was deep and still within the tidal zone: an ideal place for the berthing of ships. The area was also well-drained and low-lying with geology suitable for brickmaking. There was soon a flourishing city called Londinium in the area where the monument now stands. The name itself is Celtic, not Latin, and may originally have referred merely to a previous farmstead on the site.

In AD 60, London was burnt to the ground by the forces of Queen Boudicca of the Iceni tribe (from modern Norfolk), when she led a major revolt against Roman rule. The governor, Suetonius Paulinus, who was busy exterminating the Druids in North Wales, marched his troops south in an attempt to save London but, seeing the size of Boudicca's approaching army, decided he could not mount an adequate defence and evacuated the city instead. Not everyone managed to escape though and many were massacred. Though the governors' military duties kept them mostly on the British frontier, it seems likely that they spent the winter months in London, the most convenient city from which to reach any part of Britain or the continental Empire. From the 250s, an altar inscription records that Governor Marcus Martiannius Pulcher rebuilt the Temple of Isis in the city; and a speculator, from his or a subsequent governor's staff, was buried on Ludgate Hill. An elaborate late 1st century building, with large reception rooms and offices, has been partially excavated beneath Cannon Street Station. It may have been the Governor's Palace. A second palatial building was recently discovered in the smaller trading settlement at Southwark, in the marshes south of the river.

Monument to Gaius Julius Alpinus ClassicianusThe financial and economic equivalent of the governor was the procurator and there is clear evidence that the offices of this official lay somewhere within the city of Roman London. The Procurator, Gaius Julius Alpinus Classicianus who rebuilt the city after Boudicca's rebellion and promoted London trade, died and was buried there. Parts of his monumental tombstone have been dug-up and are on display in the British Museum. Bricks and writing tablets have also been found stamped with such messages as 'issued by Imperial Procurators of the Province of Britain'.

The major symbol of Roman rule was the Temple of the Imperial Cult. Emperor worship was administered by the Provincial Council whose headquarters appear to have been in London by AD 100. A member of its staff, named Anencletus, buried his wife on Ludgate Hill around this time. Pagan worship flourished within the cosmopolitan city. A temple to the mysterious Eastern god, Mithras, was found at Bucklersbury House and is displayed nearby. Traditionally, St. Paul's stands on the site of a Temple of Diana. Other significant buildings also began to appear in the late 1st century, at a time when the city was expanding rapidly. The forum (market-place) and basilica (law-courts) complex, at Leadenhall Market, was erected and then quickly replanned as the largest such complex north of Alps. The forum was much bigger than today's Trafalgar Square. Procurator Agricola encouraged the use of Bath Houses and a grand public suite has been excavated in Upper Thames Street. They were as much a social venue as a place to bathe. There was a smaller version at Cheapside and, in later centuries, private bath houses were also built. Another popular attraction was the wooden amphitheatre erected on the north-western outskirts of the city. It is possible that gladiatorial shows were put on here, though lesser public sports, like bear-baiting, may have been more regular.

Model of the Second Great Forum and Basilica in Roman London

By the early 2nd century, London had spread west of the Walbrook and a military fort was erected near the amphitheatre which itself was rebuilt in stone. This may have been in anticipation of a visit from the Emperor Hadrian in AD 122. He would not have approved of soldiers being billeted with civilians. The garrison was probably modest with responsibilities restricted to ceremonial, escort and guard duties. The amphitheatre may have been used for their military exercises.

By about AD 200, the administration of Britain was divided in two. York became the capital of Britannia Inferior & London of Britannia Superior. Around the same time the city also acquired its famous walls (probably about 20ft high). This protective measure may have been due to Civil War, initiated when Governor Clodius Albinus tried to claim the Imperial Crown in Rome.

A century later, the Emperor Diocletian again reorganised Britain to improve administrative efficiency. London became the capital of Maxima Caesariensis, one of the four newly created provinces. It remained the financial centre of Britain, home of the treasury, and the usurping British Emperor Carausius established Memorial medallion showing Constantius Chlorus relieving the Siege of Londona mint there in AD 288. Carausius was soon murdered by his finance minister, Allectus. The latter employed Frankish mercenaries who besieged London and then proceeded to plunder it. Just in time, the true Emperor's general, Constantius Chlous, arrived, with a fleet of ships, to save the city & reunite Britain with Rome.

Details of late Roman London, and Britain as a whole, are few. Christianity appears to have reached the province at an early date and, only a year after the religion became officially tolerated in the Empire, London had its own Bishop, Restitutus, who is known to have attended the Imperial Council of Arles. Less welcome newcomers may have led to the addition of catapult towers along the city defences around AD 350. Picts and Irishmen were certainly invading Southern Britain eighteen years later. The Emperor Julian sent his general Theodosius to expel them and he used London as his headquarters. Soon afterward, the city's prestige was increased by its renaming as Augusta.

Another British usurper, Magnus Maximus, claimed the Western Imperial throne in AD 383. He is also known to have set up a mint in London and it was probably from the city that he left, with much of the Roman army stationed in Britain, for his lengthy campaigns on the Continent. Five years later, Maximus was dead and Imperial power was waning in the extreme Western provinces. Germanic style buckles, of circa AD 400, found in the city indicate that, as in other British towns, London officials were employing Saxon Mercenaries. London was arranging its own defence and, only ten years later, the Emperor Honorius renounced his responsibility for the British Provinces.
http://britannia.com/history/londonhistory/

Бобик, тут другая машина времени... напиши рецептик какой, ну или советы по дайвингу, в крайнем случае спой сербелу колыбельку-)))

Я здесь человек новый и мне сложно пока разобраться. Но мне показалось ,что он интересуется английской культурой и моим любимым городом. Машина времени -это ведь из Уеллса? Мне больше нравитя Азимов. И про дайвинг я ничего не знаю- плавать ,к сожалению, не умею.

почитай по темам-))) машина времени - из москвы вообще-то...
Р.S. но не надо инфу о москве плиз

О, млин, чего тока не встретишь
Уже думаешь, что ничему не удивляешься, а тут на тебе...

Cпасибо за информацию. Обязательно псмотрю. Только я музыкой не очень интересуюсь- я кино люблю. Я сам родом из Мордовии, но у нас там собственного, мордовского кино не было. Вот когда я с родителями переехал за рубеж- смог ходить в кино и смотреть фильмы, которые мне нравятся. А у вас тут раздел про кино есть?

Это Жорик!

Нет. еня зовут Роберт. Это если полностью. А так -Робик. Ну там мама или тётя моя, меня так называют. Я с ними живу. Мы вместе смотрим фильмы разные и иногда я захожу во всякие форумы просто так. Часто меня гонят, но я не обижаюсь. Ну говорят -зануда и достал своими вопросами. Но я вот спрошу еще разок -а про кино у вас тут обсуждают?

Да.

Нет! Нет! Нет!

ты злюка!

2Робик:
у нас главный киномеханик это Сербел, в основном он афиши тут постит-))))

Афиши я люблю. Я б их покупал ,но денег как-то не хватает на это. А по ночам срывать неудобно, если поймают - страшновато. А он их где достает? Это вот тот ,который про Лондон спрашивал?

Классно

Особенно это пондравилось:
Stuart London
By Margaret Johnson

The accession of King James VI of Scotland to the English throne, as James I in 1603, led to a major influx of Scots into London, which was to continue in succeeding centuries. In James' time and later in that of Charles I, Inigo Jones introduced town planning to the capital. He built the Queen's House at Greenwich Palace and the Banqeting House at Whitehall. However, the experimental developments at Covent Garden and Lincoln's Inn Fields were still in their infancy when Civil War broke out. Perhaps the most significant civic achievement of James I's reign was the provision of a clean water supply for the capital under the New River Scheme, overseen originally by the City Corporation and later by Hugh Myddelton with help from the King. James was not always a popular monarch however and his harsh anti-catholic laws led to an attempt to assassinate him at the opening of Parliament at the Royal Palace of Westminster in 1605. Fortunately, this 'Gunpowder Plot' was uncovered and the perpetrators rounded up.

Charles I's reign is largely marked by financial and constitutional struggles with the King, whose demands and trade restrictions alienated the City. On January 4th 1642, when the King tried to arrest five members of the House Commons for treason, they all fled to the City. He looked around Parliament in Westminster and commented, "The birds have flown". The following day, he personally demanded their surrender, at Guildhall, but to no avail; and he heard cries of 'Privileges of Parliament!" as he left. London naturally became an anti-royalist stronghold. The greatest threat to its dominant position came in November 1642 when the King's men, following the Battle of Edgehill, moved south to Brentford, nine miles from London. They were quickly put to flight by Lord Essex's men,, supported by a large group of Londoners, and were forced to fall back to Reading and Oxford. The next time Charles came to the capital would be in January 1649 for his trial in Westminster Hall and execution outside the Banqueting House at Whitehall Palace.

The Cromwellian period is notable for the return of a Jewish community to the City. Following their banishment by Edward I in 1292, there is little evidence of their having any presence at all in London. A small settlement of Jews from Spain and Portugal, fleeing the Inquisition, had reached London via Amsterdam during Charles I's reign. Cromwell was to employ them in his secret service and, eventually, he made Abraham Israel Carvajal, their official leader, the first English Jew. However, it was not until 1655, at a conference led by Rabbi Menasseh Bell Israel that it was finally agreed that English Law did not forbid the settlement of Jews. In 1657 a synagogue was openly built at Creechurch Lane in the City and a cemetery was allocated at Mile End.

Restoration of the Monarchy
The restoration of Charles II to the throne was to be followed by two great disasters: the first was the Great Plague of 1665, followed a year later by the Great Fire. Plague had been a constant threat in London since Medieval times. The outbreak of 1665 began in St. Giles-in-the-Fields and spread to devastate the over-crowded, impoverished areas of Stepney, Shoreditch, Clerkenwell, Cripplegate, St. Giles's and Westminster. Within the City itself, it was relatively controlled.

In June, the King and his courtiers left London, not to return until February of the following year. A parliamentary session of only a few days was held at Oxford. The Duke of Albermarle was the only one of the King's ministers to remain in London. He was aided by magistrates, whom the King had ordered to stay, and he personally took responsibility for the areas beyond the city walls. The Lord Mayor, Sir John Lawrence, was responsible for the City. A fascinating insight into these appalling times can be gained from reading Daniel Defoe's 'Journal of the Plague Year,' as a description, though not strictly a history. Of nearly 100,000 deaths recorded in London in 1665, over 68,000 were the result of plague.

The Great Fire
At the time of the great fire, plague was still present in London. Early in the morning of Sunday 2nd September 1666, a baker's shop in Pudding Lane, near London Bridge caught fire. The houses nearby were overcrowded and made of wood, and the fire quickly spread to the riverside where large quantities of highly combustible materials were kept. The early destruction of the water wheel at the bridge meant that the areas round about had no water supply with which to fight the fire. The fire spread rapidly into the heart of the City and was soon threatening the Royal Exchange, Lombard Street and Cornhill, a very wealthy area.

The fire was driven deeper and deeper into the capital by a wind which blew constantly for the first three days. By the end of the second day, the riverside had been devastated and the fire had engulfed Cornhill, the Poultry and was threatening Cheapside. We have a very vivid account from the diarist, Samuel Pepys, who described the fire at night as a vast "bow of flame". As the means of directing water onto the flames were hugely inadequate, the only real way to fight the fire was to pull down the burning houses, before it could spread further. People used poles, axes, ladders - anything to try to prevent its spread.



Overall authority was passed to Prince James, Duke of York, replacing Sir Thomas Bludworth, the indecisive Lord Mayor. The army and dockworkers were drafted in to help. By Tuesday morning, nearly half the City within the walls was alight - including Guildhall. The Custom House and the Royal Exchange were burnt to the ground and the magnificent Cathedral of old St Paul's was virtually destroyed. The fire was to continue burning through Cheapside and the London walls at Cripplegate, Newgate and Ludgate. From there it moved along Fleet Street, nearly as far as the Temple Bar. On the fourth day, the wind dropped and the fire slowly came to a halt.

The results were devastating: only a fifth of the walled city remained, with 273 acres of it burnt. Outside the walls, 63 acres were ruined and in total 87 parish churches and 13,200 homes were lost. Such widespread devastation would not be seen again until the Second World War and the bombings of the 'Blitz'.

Rebuilding the City
The fire was to change the character of London forever. Sir Chistopher Wren and John Evelyn drew up plans to redesign the city but ultimately the existing street plan had to be followed, due to a lack of government funding. Four kinds of houses were specified by the Rebuilding Act of 1667, to be built only of brick and stone. The new city gradually grew up with wider streets and regular brick houses. Many Livery Companies' Halls had to be replaced, along with the Custom House and the Royal Exchange. Guildhall was restored but its completion was delayed until 1675. Among the great treasures of this time are the churches rebuilt by Sir Christopher Wren. He started work on ten of them, four years after the fire. The remainder, in total fifty-one, were still unfinished well into the next century. Even St. Paul's itself was not completed until 1712.

Following the fire, the City became a more marked commercial centre under the Lord Mayor. The gentry chose to make their homes to the West, in Covent Garden and Lincoln's Inn Fields and further out as time progressed. At the end of Charles II's reign, there were practically no fashionable addresses left within the City.

The fire also highlighted the need for public services. Until then, each householder had held responsibility for lighting, repairing and cleaning the street in front of his house and policing his area as part of 'the watch'. The Sewers Act of 1671 created the Commissioners of Sewers, a body responsible for the upkeep, drainage and cleanliness of London's streets. To finance this they were given the right to charge rates.

Charles II was the last monarch to dare to limit the long-established liberties of the City of London, removing several aldermen and officers in 1683, under the writ Quo Warranto. He was to replace these men and their mayor with his own people for some years. However, these actions were always legally suspect and it later appeared that the King had even had to remove two King's Bench Judges in order to gain approval. On Charles II's death on 6th February 1685, King James II came to the throne and during his short, turbulent reign the City regained its full autonomy.

On James II's flight in December 1688, Guildhall was chosen as a stronghold from where the men of power could prepare the Declaration of Allegiance to the Prince of Orange. Prince William was welcomed by the City and, indeed, the Lord Mayor, aldermen and 50 representatives of the common council were all invited to the authoritative assembly which was called upon his arrival. With his wife, Queen Mary, he favoured Hampton Court as his chief Royal Residence. It was much rebuilt by Sir Christopher Wren but, luckily, lack of money meant that much of his grandiose scheme was abandoned and the older Tudor buildings survived. The couple also bought Nottingham House from their Secretary of State and turned it into Kensington Palace. Thes palaces were also favourites of Queen Anne.

Так вот с чего началось это у Робика!
Сербел, почитай, ты ж хотел о Лондоне

Жжоте...

Внесу свой вклад в тему о Лондоне

бикбэд

Красиво,правда?

Великобритания, Лондон, Тауэрбридж:
51°30'19.56"N 0°4'32.00"W

А у вас здесь кто- нибудь из Лондона есть? Вот я понял ,что Сербель. А кто еще?